10 of the worst TV shows you ever seen.

[HamburgerWhale]

10.Almost Naked Animals
9.The Nutshack/King Star King
8.Fanboy and Chum Chum
7.Allen Gregory
6.Bordertown
5.Mega Babies
4.Pig Goat Banana Cricket/Breadwinners
3.Mr Pickles
2.Mr Meaty/Secret Mountain Fort Awesome
1.Ren and Stimpy: Adult Party Cartoon

Horonable Mentions:
Teen Titans Go
12 Oz Mouse
Clutch Cargo
Brickleberry
Sanjay and Craig
The Problem Solverz
Angelica Anaconda
The Brothers Grunt
Sonic Boom
Rocket Monkeys
Stressed Eric

[Evil Ash]

Ren and Stimpy Adult Party is a god damned treasure.

[Shaun]

oh god too many to name. I'll name the ten worst genres

-most sitcoms esp. those with laugh tracks
-anime and all anime sub-genres (hentai is OK but rarely on TV)
-makeover shows (home renovation, shitty restaurants, weight loss, fashion tips from gay men, etc.)
-talk shows
-kids shows
-talent shows, esp. singing competitions
-reality shows that are truthfully game shows (The Amazing Race, Survivor, etc.)
-any high-stakes contest that relies on artificial time constraints to create drama
-other reality shows not listed above; there are so many and so many types
-cryptozoology and pseudoscience
-[corporate] news programs
-soap operas
-sports
-most dramas

oops that's more than 10... oh well

Good shows:
-To Catch a Predator (hilarious)

[I Am Your God]

I'm going to say Game of Thrones since some cheeky cunt will/should do it inevitably

you're welcome

[Nokes]

Teen Titans go has actually gotten a chuckle out of me. It's not that bad but I hate that it replaced such a great show.

And yeah, most kid shows are just 20 minute toy commercials now.

[I Am Your God]

2 and 1/2 Men
Friends
Full House
Barney and Friends
The Big Bang Theory
Mom
The Andy Griffith Show
Jerry Springer
The Flash
The Walking Dead

(Those came to the top of my mind)

[Phil Williamson]

Originally Posted by Nokes

And yeah, most kid shows are just 20 minute toy commercials now.

by "now" do you mean for decades? Transformers was the most literal possible example of this since the toys came first, and stuff like He-Man and Ninja Turtles were just as commercialized as modern cartoons

this is kinda hard to answer cuz if I don't like a show I just stop watching it before I've developed any strong feelings about it. the only thing that comes to mind that was awful but I kept watching anyway out of morbid fascination is the quasi-Netflix-original Between.

and then for shows I only watched an episode or two of them gave up on so can't really judge...F is For Family comes to mind. oh man also Riverdale, the first episode of that was about as bad as 45 minutes of TV can get. ooh also Fringe. and Manifest. and I definitely wouldn't call Breaking Bad one of the worst shows I've ever seen, but I watched the whole first season and thought it was pretty mediocre.

[Old Rivers]

Lol @ The Andy Griffith Show being one of the ten worst shows of all time.

[Mabdog]

BIG BANG THEORY IS THE WORST

Happy that I could shed some light on this subject. Close thread pls

[I Am Your God]

Survivor
The Amazing Race
Workaholics
Cops
Extreme Makeover: Home Edition
The Middle
Live w/ Regis and Kelly
Dr. Oz
The Cosby Show
2 Broke Girls
M.A.S.H. (fucking awful)
Beat Billy Flay
Hell's Kitchen
My 600-lb Life
Alaskan Bush People (and 99.9% of Discovery)
fucking Elementary (please, murder me where I sit)

[Bravoie]

seinfeld

[Vic Rattlehead]

Yep; I can’t stand Seinfeld either.

1) Never liked Star Trek Enterprise. Scott Bakula is as bland as paste.
2) Professional wrestling of any sort.
3) Weight loss competition shows.
4) “Celebrity” versions of reality shows.
5) “Reality” shows about hillbillies and/or pawn shops.
6) South Park.
7) Cable News op-Ed shows where people yell over each other.
8) Survivorman.
9) Soul Train; because it meant Saturday Morning cartoons were over.
10) The multiple attempts to relaunch Unsolved Mysteries.

[Phil Williamson]

how can you assholes possibly not like Seinfeld?? do you like other sitcoms?

and I agree that Scott Bakula wasn't a very good Star Trek captain (and I kinda feel like you should be DQed from the role automatically if you've already been the lead on a famous sci fi series anyway?). in fact I don't think I'd call ANY of the characters particularly good. but...I like Enterprise anyway! dunno why. good writing I guess?

now Star Trek Discovery, THERE'S a show that belongs in this thread, can't believe I forgot to mention it since I've seen it all but still hate it. it manages to be both a bad show in general and an annoying show in particular for Star Trek nerds because it shits all over the continuity. and Sonequa Martin-Green really makes you miss even Bakula.

[Dustin Guest]

lol Discovery is the only Trek show I've actually enjoyed.

[Phil Williamson]

haha well you're really into Star Wars right? maybe you liked it for some of the same reasons Star Trek fans hated it. it's more like Star Wars in the sense that it's about a bunch of heroes gallavanting around the galaxy chasing various MacGuffins and fighting to save the universe with lots of action, effects, etc. Star Trek has always (especially since Next Generation) been more about the interesting ethical dilemmas, philosophical questions, etc that come up when you start exploring space and running into aliens. Discovery has very little of that, and when it even tries (like the episode where they find a mysterious colony of humans on a distant planet) it's usually done in some lame ham-fisted way where ultimately everyone gets what they want, there are no real tough choices, and it's all really badly written to boot

[Dustin Guest]

That's pretty much it. They added a bit of Battlestar and Star Wars into the whole thing and that hit the right spot for me.

[Old Rivers]

I actually quite liked Enterprise and thought Scott Bakula was a fine captain. The guy felt like a real naval officer, whereas Janeway would have been court martialed and executed in real life, and Sisko would have been relieved of his post for being mentally unstable.

However the BIG problem with Enterprise is that after season one the writers stopped bothering to develop any characters other than the main three, to the point where I couldn't even really remember their names by the end of the show. In fact, it was because of this that, at the end of last season, when they introduce the whole subplot about there being a traitor aboard the ship, i was CERTAIN that it would be one of the main supporting characters (probably the black dude), as that would sorta explain why so little effort was put into developing his character. ...but then it just turned out to be some random asshole that we've never seen before. Lame.

Also I only saw the first three episodes of Discovery, but it was so fucking terrible and made me hate america, that i instantly gave it up.

[Phil Williamson]

I didn't read that spoiler because I haven't finished the show yet, but whatever it is, it's wrong - the BIG problem with Enterprise is the theme song



UGH. corny as fuck and instantly dates it to the early 2000s. I've heard multiple people say that the intro theme alone turned them off to ever even trying the show, and I don't blame them.

and the fact that every other Star Trek show's intro, including Discovery, is great makes it even worse

[Dave Miles]

Hahah, that’s seriously the real intro? On a Star Trek show? Wtf were they thinking

[Gorosaurus]

Wow! I definitely have never seen it before, then. That was awful!

I love TNG, but I haven't liked any of the other Trek shows that I've seen. After hearing a whole lot (and I mean a whole lot) of people online saying that DS9 was even better, I decided to strap in and give it a shot. "Just make it through the first season or so, it's worth it!!" I watched the whole series waiting for the payoff. It was miserable.

Oh sure- it has its moments, but it's pretty much awful as a whole. The TNG cameos were cringeworthy, and almost all of the characters were uninteresting or just plain unlikable. It's lauded for its deep, brave story telling, but TNG took braver leaps (though less often) and landed them miles better.

Sisko felt so awkward through the whole thing. It was like they wanted James Earl Jones, and even wrote it like they had him, and then you've got this guy that has a deep voice but no charisma. The robotic mannerisms were pretty weird, too.

Nope, I watched the whole thing and it sucked. Not going to waste my time with Voyager or Enterprise, because those don't even have their fanbases to vouch for them.


Oh, and I watched Wrath of Khan because of the internet as well. They were wrong there, too.

[Vic Rattlehead]

Have to agree to disagree; TNG was a great access point for Trek and still is. But DS9 is top of the heap. Especially the final 9 episode run.

I don’t get a chance to watch much TV anymore, but I like Discovery. It’s a good, different spin on Trek to watch the adventures through the eyes of a single character. But it’s also intensified my dislike for the Trek fan base who endlessly (and I mean ENDLESSLY) piss and moan about itty bitty little continuity things. They are the original toxic fan base. And they are why Trek struggles to satisfy an increasingly shrinking target audience while other franchises become multi billion dollar properties. Holding on to the warm fuzzies of TV shows from the 1960s and 1980s that look cheaper than MST3K now and having conniptions because a woman fronts the new show is what makes Trek a C list property.

Of course you may disagree.

[Phil Williamson]

damn Goro, harsh take on DS9. I'm definitely in the "it's the best Star Trek" camp, even the early seasons. I can't really argue with you on Sisko - I like him, but he really is way too "theatrical" for Star Trek and you kinda have to be able to accept him as his own thing.

but the characters in general?? to me that's DS9's huge strength, its linear nature and the character development that allowed for, which was almost totally unprecedented on Star Trek. you could drop the season 7 TNG crew into a season 1 episode and you'd hardly notice anything except better writing and Riker's beard. I'm not sure there's even a single character you could do that with on DS9.

plus there is actual disagreement and ethical wrangling between them, often without it being clear who's right. TNG certainly has its ethical conflict episodes, but they're pretty much all the crew as a united front fighting for the "good guy answer" that viewers are obviously gonna sympathize with against some meddlesome admiral or other outside force - and you know they're gonna win in the end. DS9 was the first Star Trek show, and one of the first TV shows period really, to gamble that viewers would still root for heroic characters who sometimes did things they thought were bad and had priorities they couldn't sympathize with. that allowed for much more character and story depth, and was indeed much "braver" than any aspect of TNG's storytelling IMO.

(but hey if you thought all the characters were uninteresting then none of that matters I guess. but you're wrong!!)

Originally Posted by Vic Rattlehead

And they are why Trek struggles to satisfy an increasingly shrinking target audience while other franchises become multi billion dollar properties. Holding on to the warm fuzzies of TV shows from the 1960s and 1980s that look cheaper than MST3K now and having conniptions because a woman fronts the new show is what makes Trek a C list property.

have you been in a coma for the past decade or something? this reads like a post from when Enterprise was on the air and literally could never have been less accurate than it is today. trekkies who bitch about continuity changes may be annoying, but it doesn't matter, because neither the movies nor the new show are making the slightest of efforts to "satisfy an increasingly shrinking target audience" by pandering to them - they're ignoring them completely and going for mainstream appeal, and that's exactly why the trekkies are mad. but it's also succeeding hugely. the three new Star Trek movies made $150-300 million each. in addition to Discovery there are four other shows in development. the franchise is more successful and has far more broad-reaching appeal now than it ever has before. no part of your take makes sense.

[Vic Rattlehead]

Except for the fact that the “Kelvin Timeline” movies played to diminishing financial returns each time. Which to me is a shame since I think Into Darkness gets a major league bad wrap.

Fact is though, that a 4th Trek movie isn’t happening because overall, Beyond lost money and the studio doesn’t feel the actors are worth their salaries anymore. So Wonder Woman’s himbo sidekick/man in distress is officially too expensive for the studios to justify paying for another Star Trek. If the last movie had proven profitable then it wouldn’t be a discussion even. But when hard R movies like Deadpool outdoor ostensibly family fare like Trek, yeah, it’s a failed property.

Even lower tier Marvel movies like Ant-Man and Dr. Strange best the most recent Trek fare while barely lifting a creative or advertising finger. Trek has retreated to streaming services because you can turn a profit playing to niche audiences that way. But the high hopes of being a box office heavy hitter to compete with the likes of Star Wars, Marvel, Batman, Harry Potter or Disney remakes were/are totally dashed.

From the perspective of sheer quality however, the Picard series will be at least as good and probably better and I can’t WAIT for that one.

[Gorosaurus]

Yeah, Phil- I just didn't like the characters at all. They were more nuanced, for sure, but didn't have that charisma, design, or other elements that attached me to them. The villains in DS9 were much more interesting and fun to watch than the main characters.

Even in TNG, the one-off or occasional characters were pretty interesting (not the majority of them, but many of them). I chalk it up to better actors, but I don't really know for sure.

And instead of annoying klingon politics episodes, they had an abundance of annoying ferengi politics episodes.

[I Am Your God]

Picard was the only treasure of TNG