Running 3DMM using Wine on Linux a Tutorial

Nokes · 04:52 AM

3D Movie Maker Installer for Ubuntu
This script has been put together to install 3D Movie Maker automatically on Ubuntu or Ubuntu based distros. It has been tested in multiple versions, 32-bit, 64-bit and Linux Mint. Sometimes you have to run it twice, but it did work every time for me. It can be downloaded here:

3D Movie Maker Installer for Ubuntu Installs and configures all packages and settings and 3DMM automatically.

If you would rather install it yourself or the script doesn't work for you, read on.

Manual Installation
I have tested this method on 3 different versions of WINE (1.6.2, 2.0.2, 3.0.2) on 2 different Ubuntu/Debian based distros (Lubuntu 17.10 x86, Linux Mint 18.3 KDE x64)
And I have had good results everytime. These instructions assume you are using a Ubuntu/Debian based distro, If I have time I'll try to get it working on other distros as well.
This is the order I did it in. But I think you can get away with configuring TiMidity first then install 3DMM.

If WINE is not installed, Install Wine, any verison should do. But we do need 32-bit.
For Ubuntu/Debian repo

Code:

sudo dpkg --add-architecture i386 && sudo apt update
sudo apt install wine32

OR
IF you would rather use WINE repo you might have added

Code:

sudo dpkg --add-architecture i386 && sudo apt update
sudo apt-get install --install-recommends winehq-stable

Install Microsoft fonts

Code:

sudo apt install ttf-mscorefonts-installer

Run the setup.exe from the 3DMM disc as you normally do.
Sometimes WINE doesn't find the CD. So install the No CD Patch. If you're using PlayOnLinux, make sure you run it from the same virtual drive. If you're using just the system Wine, continue as normal.
Optional It wouldn't hurt to make sure ALSA is installed. Sometimes alsa-base is called kmod, it will install which ever and say the other doesn't exist, don't worry.
Code:
```
sudo apt install alsa-base kmod
```
Install TiMidity++ and TiMidity Extra Interfaces
Code:
```
sudo apt install timidity-interfaces-extra
```
Disable and close TiMidity daemon (Doing this might not be necessary once I figure out how to make ALSA the default output).
Code:
```
sudo pkill timidity
sudo systemctl disable timidity
```
Run TiMidity server with ALSA as output.
Code:
```
timidity -Os -iA & wine ~/.wine/drive_c/Program\ Files\ \(x86\)/Microsoft\ Kids/3D\ Movie\ Maker/3dmovie.exe ; pkill timidity
```
Remember to kill TiMidity before running 3DMM again just to be sure your system doesn't get bogged down.
OR
You can create a custom timidity.service file and never have to worry about starting and stopping TiMidity.
In your user directory, in the hidden .config folder then systemd\user (if these last 2 directories do not exist, create them), create a new text file called "timidity.service". Paste the following and save.
Code:
```
[Unit]
Description=TiMidity++ Daemon
After=sound.target

[Service]
ExecStart=/usr/bin/timidity -iA -Os

[Install]
WantedBy=default.target
```
Then enable and start the service.
Code:
```
systemctl --user enable timidity.service
systemctl --user start timidity.service
```
And run this instead:
Code:
```
wine ~/.wine/drive_c/Program\ Files\ \(x86\)/Microsoft\ Kids/3D\ Movie\ Maker/3dmovie.exe
```
I have written two scripts to make this a little easier. One to install required packages and configure settings and one to run 3DMM.
Code:
```
3DMM Setup Ubuntu, Will also configure a timidity.service file.
3DMM Shortcut If you do not want to create a timidity.service file
```
Remember to "chmod +x" the scripts if "permission denied".

If installing 3DMM through WINE created a shortcut and you do not want to edit or create the TiMidity service, to make them work properly you will have to use the 3dmm.sh script keep it safe somewhere then edit the shortcut in your favourite text editor (3D Movie Maker.desktop) and change the "Exec=..." line to:
Code:
```
Exec=env bash -c "~/.3dmm.sh"
```

I'm also looking into writing a script for Lutris to make it even easier

EDIT:
Rabid Dinosaur pointed out (because I forgot I did this to prevent messing with previous WINE prefixes) that if you use the 3DMM Installer for Ubuntu you have to use the following command instead:

Code:

wine ~/.wine3dmm/drive_c/Program\ Files/Microsoft\ Kids/3D\ Movie\ Maker/3dmovie.exe

Nokes · 03:54 AM

The default FreePats soundfont for TiMidity sucks a big one. It's missing a lot of instruments so whole sections of songs are missing sometimes.

Install FluidR3 SoundFonts

Code:

sudo apt install fluid-soundfont-gs
sudo apt install fluid-soundfont-gm

Configure TiMidity to use Fluid Soundfonts as default

Code:

sudo nano /etc/timidity/timidity.cfg

Remove or comment the line

Code:

source /etc/timidity/freepats.cfg

Add or uncomment the lines

Code:

source /etc/timidity/fluidr3_gm.cfg
source /etc/timidity/fluidr3_gs.cfg

Either restart the TiMidity service or run 3DMM with

Code:

timidity -Os -iA & wine ~/.wine/drive_c/Program\ Files\ \(x86\)/Microsoft\ Kids/3D\ Movie\ Maker/3dmovie.exe ; pkill timidity

Nokes · 09-11-2018, 01:11 PM

Please sticky?

Phil Williamson · 09-11-2018, 02:16 PM

I think this is too obscure to be stickied on its own but I added a link to it in the stickied tutorials thread. thanks for making this!

Nokes · 09-11-2018, 07:13 PM

Fair enough, I'll keep updating it too!

Nokes · 03:56 AM

Tested on Manjaro 17.1.12 x64 using WINE 3.15 (on a virtual machine so it did sound like shit)

Install WINE
Code:
```
sudo pacman -S wine
```
Install Microsoft Fonts.
Manjaro Users:
Pamac > = > Preferences > AUR > Enable AUR Support
Search: ttf-ms-fonts
Check and Apply

Arch Users:
Code:
```
sudo pacman -S ttf-ms-fonts
```
Run the setup.exe from the 3DMM disc and the No CD Patch and Frankie's, Nick and Doaraemon expansions.
Install TiMidity++ (I think extra interfaces is included here)
Code:
```
sudo pacman -S timidity++
```
Install FluidR3 soundfont, since FreePats is not included and sucks anyway.
Code:
```
sudo pacman -S soundfont-fluid
```

Configure TiMidity to use soundfont

Code:

sudo echo "soundfont /usr/share/soundfonts/FluidR3_GM.sf2" >> /etc/timidity++/timidity.cfg
sudo echo "soundfont /usr/share/soundfonts/FluidR3_GS.sf2" >> /etc/timidity++/timidity.cfg

Kill and disable TiMidity daemon

Code:

pkill timidity
sudo systemctl disable timidity

Run

Code:

timidity -Os -iA & wine ~/.wine/drive_c/Program\ Files\ \(x86\)/Microsoft\ Kids/3D\ Movie\ Maker/3dmovie.exe ; pkill timidity

If installing 3DMM through WINE created a shortcut and you do not want to edit or create the TiMidity service, to make them work properly you will have to use the 3dmm.sh script keep it safe somewhere then edit the shortcut in your favourite text editor (3D Movie Maker.desktop) and change the "Exec=..." line to:

Code:

Exec=env bash -c "~/.3dmm.sh"

Nokes · 09-14-2018, 04:57 AM

After a lot of testing, I can conclude that this method only partially works for v3DMM.
You can load all the expansions you want, make a movie and save it, but it will not open .vmm or .3mm files.

Nokes · 10-06-2018, 03:36 AM

You can run the game over ssh as long as you don't mind the sound coming from the server

Nokes · 10:05 PM

I could have sworn that I posted this somewhere, I bundled 3DMM and Wine into a convenient App for MacOS. I tested this on 10.7 Lion, 10.11 El Capitan and 10.12 High Sierra
3D Movie Maker.App

Again, v3DMM does not work.

Nokes · 12:43 AM

This happens when running 32-bit WINE on 64-bit Linux sometimes.
Just install the 32-bit libasound2 Plugins.

Ubuntu etc.

Code:

sudo apt-get install libasound2-plugins:i386

This error has been addressed by the 3DMM Setup Script

Arch/Manjaro etc.

Code:

pacman -Syu lib32-alsa-lib lib32-alsa-plugins

If you're running a 32-bit Linux. Don't.

BiznessMan · 01-22-2019, 05:03 PM

Just saw the news that you can use Steam's Proton (optimized Wine for Steam games) with any game now. You can just add it to your steam library and choose to use Proton. My first thought was 3dmm.

I'll have to give it a try later and see how it compares to just running it in Wine.

Video of it in action:
https://streamable.com/pukwz

Nokes · 05:48 PM

I don't know why I haven't thought of using Proton yet.
Trying that now.

EDIT: I have not gotten this to work yet.

Nokes · 02:52 PM

I have created an installer for 3D Movie Maker with basic expansions for Ubuntu and compatible distros.
No Disc needed!
It can be downloaded here.

Proof

Nokes · 01-30-2019, 05:27 AM

I have been having trouble importing sound effects. I don't know how to fix this yet. Sounds can be recorded without any issues though.

Nokes · 05:01 AM

Yes, I did try to use Crossover for ChromeOS, it will not run the installer. No I did not try to use WINE for Android since developer mode is so annoying and I didn't want to have to wipe my Chromebook.

You can install .DEB packages on Chrome OS if you install Linux (Beta).
You can enable that here if you haven't done it already.

If the Linux Terminal doesn't automatically open after install, open the Terminal. Not Crosh.

From here most of these instructions work on Debian Stretch as well. Just replace "Linux Files" with "~/" or "/home/<user>/"

Update all your packages:

Code:

sudo apt update
sudo apt dist-upgrade

We need to edit our sources list. I used Vim because it's already there and I didn't want to have install more packages. But you can apt install nano if you like.

Code:

sudo vi /etc/apt/sources.list

Change the line

Code:

deb https://deb.debian.org/debian stretch main

to

Code:

deb https://deb.debian.org/debian stretch main contrib

To save the file and exit Vim, hit the [ESC] and type ":x" and hit [Enter].

Allow installation of 32-bit packages and update all your packages again:

Code:

sudo dpkg --add-architecture i386 && sudo apt update

Install 32-bit WINE:

Code:

sudo apt install wine32

Install Microsoft fonts

Code:

sudo apt install ttf-mscorefonts-installer

Run the setup.exe from the 3DMM disc from the terminal. I have not found an easy way to mount an ISO in ChromeOS, so just copy the files from your legally obtained copy onto a USB drive using another computer and into your Linux Files folder.
For Example:

Code:

wine ./3dmmCDFiles/setup.exe

You can either run the NoCD Patch through wine in the terminal the same way or copy everything needed from the CD's 3DMM folder into your new 3D Movie Maker installation folder. Remember to show hidden files.

Code:

Linux Files/.wine/drive_c/Program Files (x86)/Microsoft Kids/3D Movie Maker/

Install TiMidity++ and TiMidity Extra Interfaces

Code:

sudo apt install timidity-interfaces-extra

Optional: Install better sounding sound fonts.

Disable and close TiMidity daemon (Doing this might not be necessary once I figure out how to add a TiMidity service).

Code:

sudo pkill timidity
sudo systemctl disable timidity

Finally, Run:

Code:

timidity -Os -iA & wine ~/.wine/drive_c/Program\ Files\ \(x86\)/Microsoft\ Kids/3D\ Movie\ Maker/3dmovie.exe ; pkill timidity

To update the shortcut in the Chrome menu, first download 3dmm.sh and keep it in your Linux Files folder and navigate to

Code:

Linux Files/.local/share/applications/wine/Programs/Microsoft Kids

Edit the 3D Movie Maker.desktop file in your preferred text editor and change the "Exec=..." line to:

Code:

Exec=env bash -c "~/.3dmm.sh"

I have started a script. So far this just installs the required packages and configures the configurations. I will eventually work on full installer.

Code:

Chrom3dmm

Run this in Terminal not Crosh as sudo Then run the installer from wine.

Rabid Dinosaur · 05:14 AM

installing this on my Ubuntu machine (using your installer), I'll let you know how it turns out

edit: ran it twice and it worked fine from there. everything looks great so far, but I've noticed that MIDIs don't work. are there Timidity steps that I should redo manually?

Nokes · 10-31-2019, 03:21 AM

Timidity isn't running and by default is not outputting to ALSA, so you have to kill it then run 3DMM and Timidity in ALSA mode. I explain it in the first post starting in step 6.
You can also edit the Timidity service to always start outputting to ALSA, step 8.

I also recommend installing the Fluid soundfont if you want it to sound better.

Rabid Dinosaur · 06:34 AM

I tried doing it myself (making the timidity.service file) and keep getting the error

Code:

Failed to enable unit: Unit file timidity.service does not exist.

(it's in the .config/systemd/user directory)

then I tried running your script and it ends with

Code:

mkdir: cannot create directory ‘/home/alex/.config/systemd’: Permission denied
./3dmmSetup.sh: line 15: /home/alex/.config/systemd/user/timidity.service: Permission denied
Failed to enable unit: Unit file timidity.service does not exist.
Failed to start timidity.service: Unit timidity.service not found.

(sorry I'm a big Linux dummy)

edit: no error message when I tried

Code:

sudo systemctl enable timidity.service
sudo systemctl start timidity.service

but there's been no noticeable change to the MIDI situation

Nokes · 11-01-2019, 04:11 AM

That's pretty weird that you're getting permission denied errors in your own user folder.
try running sudo before any commads, see what happens.

If all else fails just run it like this:

Code:

timidity -Os -iA & wine ~/.wine/drive_c/Program\ Files\ \(x86\)/Microsoft\ Kids/3D\ Movie\ Maker/3dmovie.exe ; pkill timidity

Rabid Dinosaur · 11-01-2019, 04:50 AM

is there a way I can incorporate this into the command line in the desktop shortcut? it seems to be working:

Code:

[3] 12013
Requested buffer size 32768, fragment size 8192
ALSA pcm 'default' set buffer size 32768, period size 8192 bytes
TiMidity starting in ALSA server mode
Opening sequencer port: 128:0 128:1 128:2 128:3

but then, I get this error from the program itself:

this actually happens every time I try to open 3dmm from the terminal, even though I corrected the path (it's actually ~/.wine3dmm/drive_c/Program\ Files/Microsoft\ Kids/3D\ Movie\ Maker/3dmovie.exe). the desktop shortcut works fine and I have no idea what the difference is.

VasaLavThree · 11-02-2019, 08:54 AM

vouch for contribution

Nokes · 12-18-2019, 04:06 AM

Hey, anyone running Catalina, can you tell me if the app still works?

Teleface · 05-05-2020, 01:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nokes

I could have sworn that I posted this somewhere, I bundled 3DMM and Wine into a convenient App for MacOS. I tested this on 10.7 Lion, 10.11 El Capitan and 10.12 High Sierra
3D Movie Maker.App

Hey Nokes, I can't seem to get this running on my macbook High Sierra... I download the zip file and drop it into my applications folder. Once extracted, I click the 3DMM icon to play but the icon just pops up on the dock and bounces but just freezes... Any help would be appreciated!

Teleface · 05-07-2020, 09:54 AM

MACOS install solved! (High Sierra)

I downloaded the zip, moved it to the applications folder, extracted in there.
Then I right-clicked the 3DMM icon and clicked 'show package contents'. Then I clicked on the winskin app and selected 'set screen options'.
I think unticked all selected options in the bottom right box under 'other options'.

This seemed to solve all issues and now works fine!

Nokes · 10-15-2020, 06:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rabid Dinosaur

is there a way I can incorporate this into the command line in the desktop shortcut? it seems to be working:

Code:

[3] 12013
Requested buffer size 32768, fragment size 8192
ALSA pcm 'default' set buffer size 32768, period size 8192 bytes
TiMidity starting in ALSA server mode
Opening sequencer port: 128:0 128:1 128:2 128:3

but then, I get this error from the program itself:

this actually happens every time I try to open 3dmm from the terminal, even though I corrected the path (it's actually ~/.wine3dmm/drive_c/Program\ Files/Microsoft\ Kids/3D\ Movie\ Maker/3dmovie.exe). the desktop shortcut works fine and I have no idea what the difference is.

Update the desktop shortcut to this command:

Code:

env bash -c 'timidity -Os -iA & WINEPREFIX=~/.wine3dmm wine ~/.wine3dmm/drive_c/Program\ Files/Microsoft\ Kids/3D\ Movie\ Maker/3DMovie.exe'

09-09-2018, 05:34 PM	#1
Nokes Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 2,375	Ubuntu/Debian/Mint etc. 3D Movie Maker Installer for Ubuntu This script has been put together to install 3D Movie Maker automatically on Ubuntu or Ubuntu based distros. It has been tested in multiple versions, 32-bit, 64-bit and Linux Mint. Sometimes you have to run it twice, but it did work every time for me. It can be downloaded here: 3D Movie Maker Installer for Ubuntu Installs and configures all packages and settings and 3DMM automatically. If you would rather install it yourself or the script doesn't work for you, read on. Manual Installation I have tested this method on 3 different versions of WINE (1.6.2, 2.0.2, 3.0.2) on 2 different Ubuntu/Debian based distros (Lubuntu 17.10 x86, Linux Mint 18.3 KDE x64) And I have had good results everytime. These instructions assume you are using a Ubuntu/Debian based distro, If I have time I'll try to get it working on other distros as well. This is the order I did it in. But I think you can get away with configuring TiMidity first then install 3DMM. If WINE is not installed, Install Wine, any verison should do. But we do need 32-bit. For Ubuntu/Debian repo Code: sudo dpkg --add-architecture i386 && sudo apt update sudo apt install wine32 OR IF you would rather use WINE repo you might have added Code: sudo dpkg --add-architecture i386 && sudo apt update sudo apt-get install --install-recommends winehq-stable Install Microsoft fonts Code: sudo apt install ttf-mscorefonts-installer Run the setup.exe from the 3DMM disc as you normally do. Sometimes WINE doesn't find the CD. So install the No CD Patch. If you're using PlayOnLinux, make sure you run it from the same virtual drive. If you're using just the system Wine, continue as normal. Optional It wouldn't hurt to make sure ALSA is installed. Sometimes alsa-base is called kmod, it will install which ever and say the other doesn't exist, don't worry. Code: sudo apt install alsa-base kmod Install TiMidity++ and TiMidity Extra Interfaces Code: sudo apt install timidity-interfaces-extra Disable and close TiMidity daemon (Doing this might not be necessary once I figure out how to make ALSA the default output). Code: sudo pkill timidity sudo systemctl disable timidity Run TiMidity server with ALSA as output. Code: timidity -Os -iA & wine ~/.wine/drive_c/Program\ Files\ \(x86\)/Microsoft\ Kids/3D\ Movie\ Maker/3dmovie.exe ; pkill timidity Remember to kill TiMidity before running 3DMM again just to be sure your system doesn't get bogged down. OR You can create a custom timidity.service file and never have to worry about starting and stopping TiMidity. In your user directory, in the hidden .config folder then systemd\user (if these last 2 directories do not exist, create them), create a new text file called "timidity.service". Paste the following and save. Code: [Unit] Description=TiMidity++ Daemon After=sound.target [Service] ExecStart=/usr/bin/timidity -iA -Os [Install] WantedBy=default.target Then enable and start the service. Code: systemctl --user enable timidity.service systemctl --user start timidity.service And run this instead: Code: wine ~/.wine/drive_c/Program\ Files\ \(x86\)/Microsoft\ Kids/3D\ Movie\ Maker/3dmovie.exe I have written two scripts to make this a little easier. One to install required packages and configure settings and one to run 3DMM. Code: 3DMM Setup Ubuntu, Will also configure a timidity.service file. 3DMM Shortcut If you do not want to create a timidity.service file Remember to "chmod +x" the scripts if "permission denied". If installing 3DMM through WINE created a shortcut and you do not want to edit or create the TiMidity service, to make them work properly you will have to use the 3dmm.sh script keep it safe somewhere then edit the shortcut in your favourite text editor (3D Movie Maker.desktop) and change the "Exec=..." line to: Code: Exec=env bash -c "~/.3dmm.sh" I'm also looking into writing a script for Lutris to make it even easier EDIT: Rabid Dinosaur pointed out (because I forgot I did this to prevent messing with previous WINE prefixes) that if you use the 3DMM Installer for Ubuntu you have to use the following command instead: Code: wine ~/.wine3dmm/drive_c/Program\ Files/Microsoft\ Kids/3D\ Movie\ Maker/3dmovie.exe
Nokes Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 2,375	Last edited by Nokes : 09-26-2020 at 04:52 AM. Reason: Even easier for Ubuntu based distros

09-09-2018, 05:44 PM	#2
Nokes Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 2,375	Better MIDI instruments The default FreePats soundfont for TiMidity sucks a big one. It's missing a lot of instruments so whole sections of songs are missing sometimes. Install FluidR3 SoundFonts Code: sudo apt install fluid-soundfont-gs sudo apt install fluid-soundfont-gm Configure TiMidity to use Fluid Soundfonts as default Code: sudo nano /etc/timidity/timidity.cfg Remove or comment the line Code: source /etc/timidity/freepats.cfg Add or uncomment the lines Code: source /etc/timidity/fluidr3_gm.cfg source /etc/timidity/fluidr3_gs.cfg Either restart the TiMidity service or run 3DMM with Code: timidity -Os -iA & wine ~/.wine/drive_c/Program\ Files\ \(x86\)/Microsoft\ Kids/3D\ Movie\ Maker/3dmovie.exe ; pkill timidity
Nokes Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 2,375	Last edited by Nokes : 10-19-2019 at 03:54 AM.

09-11-2018, 01:11 PM	#3
Nokes Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 2,375	Please sticky?
Nokes Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 2,375

09-11-2018, 07:13 PM	#5
Nokes Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 2,375	Fair enough, I'll keep updating it too!
Nokes Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 2,375

09-11-2018, 08:09 PM	#6
Nokes Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 2,375	Arch Linux / Manjaro Linux Instructions Tested on Manjaro 17.1.12 x64 using WINE 3.15 (on a virtual machine so it did sound like shit) Install WINE Code: sudo pacman -S wine Install Microsoft Fonts. Manjaro Users: Pamac > = > Preferences > AUR > Enable AUR Support Search: ttf-ms-fonts Check and Apply Arch Users: Code: sudo pacman -S ttf-ms-fonts Run the setup.exe from the 3DMM disc and the No CD Patch and Frankie's, Nick and Doaraemon expansions. Install TiMidity++ (I think extra interfaces is included here) Code: sudo pacman -S timidity++ Install FluidR3 soundfont, since FreePats is not included and sucks anyway. Code: sudo pacman -S soundfont-fluid Configure TiMidity to use soundfont Code: sudo echo "soundfont /usr/share/soundfonts/FluidR3_GM.sf2" >> /etc/timidity++/timidity.cfg sudo echo "soundfont /usr/share/soundfonts/FluidR3_GS.sf2" >> /etc/timidity++/timidity.cfg Kill and disable TiMidity daemon Code: pkill timidity sudo systemctl disable timidity Run Code: timidity -Os -iA & wine ~/.wine/drive_c/Program\ Files\ \(x86\)/Microsoft\ Kids/3D\ Movie\ Maker/3dmovie.exe ; pkill timidity If installing 3DMM through WINE created a shortcut and you do not want to edit or create the TiMidity service, to make them work properly you will have to use the 3dmm.sh script keep it safe somewhere then edit the shortcut in your favourite text editor (3D Movie Maker.desktop) and change the "Exec=..." line to: Code: Exec=env bash -c "~/.3dmm.sh"
Nokes Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 2,375	Last edited by Nokes : 10-19-2019 at 03:56 AM.

09-11-2018, 02:16 PM	#4
Phil Williamson Super Moderator Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 16,900	I think this is too obscure to be stickied on its own but I added a link to it in the stickied tutorials thread. thanks for making this!

09-14-2018, 04:57 AM	#7
Nokes Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 2,375	After a lot of testing, I can conclude that this method only partially works for v3DMM. You can load all the expansions you want, make a movie and save it, but it will not open .vmm or .3mm files.
Nokes Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 2,375

10-06-2018, 03:36 AM	#8
Nokes Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 2,375	You can run the game over ssh as long as you don't mind the sound coming from the server
Nokes Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 2,375

10-11-2018, 03:45 AM	#9
Nokes Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 2,375	I could have sworn that I posted this somewhere, I bundled 3DMM and Wine into a convenient App for MacOS. I tested this on 10.7 Lion, 10.11 El Capitan and 10.12 High Sierra 3D Movie Maker.App Again, v3DMM does not work.
Nokes Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 2,375	Last edited by Nokes : 10-12-2020 at 10:05 PM.

01-21-2019, 04:13 PM	#10
Nokes Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 2,375	ERROR: Busy Signal! ...your sound card may not be setup to play MIDI This happens when running 32-bit WINE on 64-bit Linux sometimes. Just install the 32-bit libasound2 Plugins. Ubuntu etc. Code: sudo apt-get install libasound2-plugins:i386 This error has been addressed by the 3DMM Setup Script Arch/Manjaro etc. Code: pacman -Syu lib32-alsa-lib lib32-alsa-plugins If you're running a 32-bit Linux. Don't.
Nokes Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 2,375	Last edited by Nokes : 01-25-2019 at 12:43 AM.

01-22-2019, 05:03 PM	#11
BiznessMan Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 143	Just saw the news that you can use Steam's Proton (optimized Wine for Steam games) with any game now. You can just add it to your steam library and choose to use Proton. My first thought was 3dmm. I'll have to give it a try later and see how it compares to just running it in Wine. Video of it in action: https://streamable.com/pukwz
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01-22-2019, 05:08 PM	#12
Nokes Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 2,375	I don't know why I haven't thought of using Proton yet. Trying that now. EDIT: I have not gotten this to work yet.
Nokes Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 2,375	Last edited by Nokes : 01-22-2019 at 05:48 PM.

01-23-2019, 05:30 AM	#13
Nokes Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 2,375	I have created an installer for 3D Movie Maker with basic expansions for Ubuntu and compatible distros. No Disc needed! It can be downloaded here. Proof
Nokes Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 2,375	Last edited by Nokes : 01-25-2019 at 02:52 PM.

01-30-2019, 05:27 AM	#14
Nokes Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 2,375	I have been having trouble importing sound effects. I don't know how to fix this yet. Sounds can be recorded without any issues though.
Nokes Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 2,375

10-19-2019, 01:13 AM	#15
Nokes Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 2,375	Chrome OS Yes, I did try to use Crossover for ChromeOS, it will not run the installer. No I did not try to use WINE for Android since developer mode is so annoying and I didn't want to have to wipe my Chromebook. You can install .DEB packages on Chrome OS if you install Linux (Beta). You can enable that here if you haven't done it already. If the Linux Terminal doesn't automatically open after install, open the Terminal. Not Crosh. From here most of these instructions work on Debian Stretch as well. Just replace "Linux Files" with "~/" or "/home/<user>/" Update all your packages: Code: sudo apt update sudo apt dist-upgrade We need to edit our sources list. I used Vim because it's already there and I didn't want to have install more packages. But you can apt install nano if you like. Code: sudo vi /etc/apt/sources.list Change the line Code: deb https://deb.debian.org/debian stretch main to Code: deb https://deb.debian.org/debian stretch main contrib To save the file and exit Vim, hit the [ESC] and type ":x" and hit [Enter]. Allow installation of 32-bit packages and update all your packages again: Code: sudo dpkg --add-architecture i386 && sudo apt update Install 32-bit WINE: Code: sudo apt install wine32 Install Microsoft fonts Code: sudo apt install ttf-mscorefonts-installer Run the setup.exe from the 3DMM disc from the terminal. I have not found an easy way to mount an ISO in ChromeOS, so just copy the files from your legally obtained copy onto a USB drive using another computer and into your Linux Files folder. For Example: Code: wine ./3dmmCDFiles/setup.exe You can either run the NoCD Patch through wine in the terminal the same way or copy everything needed from the CD's 3DMM folder into your new 3D Movie Maker installation folder. Remember to show hidden files. Code: Linux Files/.wine/drive_c/Program Files (x86)/Microsoft Kids/3D Movie Maker/ Install TiMidity++ and TiMidity Extra Interfaces Code: sudo apt install timidity-interfaces-extra Optional: Install better sounding sound fonts. Disable and close TiMidity daemon (Doing this might not be necessary once I figure out how to add a TiMidity service). Code: sudo pkill timidity sudo systemctl disable timidity Finally, Run: Code: timidity -Os -iA & wine ~/.wine/drive_c/Program\ Files\ \(x86\)/Microsoft\ Kids/3D\ Movie\ Maker/3dmovie.exe ; pkill timidity To update the shortcut in the Chrome menu, first download 3dmm.sh and keep it in your Linux Files folder and navigate to Code: Linux Files/.local/share/applications/wine/Programs/Microsoft Kids Edit the 3D Movie Maker.desktop file in your preferred text editor and change the "Exec=..." line to: Code: Exec=env bash -c "~/.3dmm.sh" I have started a script. So far this just installs the required packages and configures the configurations. I will eventually work on full installer. Code: Chrom3dmm Run this in Terminal not Crosh as sudo Then run the installer from wine.
Nokes Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 2,375	Last edited by Nokes : 09-26-2020 at 05:01 AM.

10-30-2019, 04:46 AM	#16
Rabid Dinosaur Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 14,894	installing this on my Ubuntu machine (using your installer), I'll let you know how it turns out edit: ran it twice and it worked fine from there. everything looks great so far, but I've noticed that MIDIs don't work. are there Timidity steps that I should redo manually?
	Last edited by Rabid Dinosaur : 10-30-2019 at 05:14 AM.

10-31-2019, 03:21 AM	#17
Nokes Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 2,375	Timidity isn't running and by default is not outputting to ALSA, so you have to kill it then run 3DMM and Timidity in ALSA mode. I explain it in the first post starting in step 6. You can also edit the Timidity service to always start outputting to ALSA, step 8. I also recommend installing the Fluid soundfont if you want it to sound better.
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10-31-2019, 05:48 AM	#18
Rabid Dinosaur Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 14,894	I tried doing it myself (making the timidity.service file) and keep getting the error Code: Failed to enable unit: Unit file timidity.service does not exist. (it's in the .config/systemd/user directory) then I tried running your script and it ends with Code: mkdir: cannot create directory ‘/home/alex/.config/systemd’: Permission denied ./3dmmSetup.sh: line 15: /home/alex/.config/systemd/user/timidity.service: Permission denied Failed to enable unit: Unit file timidity.service does not exist. Failed to start timidity.service: Unit timidity.service not found. (sorry I'm a big Linux dummy) edit: no error message when I tried Code: sudo systemctl enable timidity.service sudo systemctl start timidity.service but there's been no noticeable change to the MIDI situation
	Last edited by Rabid Dinosaur : 10-31-2019 at 06:34 AM.

11-01-2019, 04:11 AM	#19
Nokes Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 2,375	That's pretty weird that you're getting permission denied errors in your own user folder. try running sudo before any commads, see what happens. If all else fails just run it like this: Code: timidity -Os -iA & wine ~/.wine/drive_c/Program\ Files\ \(x86\)/Microsoft\ Kids/3D\ Movie\ Maker/3dmovie.exe ; pkill timidity
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11-01-2019, 04:50 AM	#20
Rabid Dinosaur Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 14,894	is there a way I can incorporate this into the command line in the desktop shortcut? it seems to be working: Code: [3] 12013 Requested buffer size 32768, fragment size 8192 ALSA pcm 'default' set buffer size 32768, period size 8192 bytes TiMidity starting in ALSA server mode Opening sequencer port: 128:0 128:1 128:2 128:3 but then, I get this error from the program itself: this actually happens every time I try to open 3dmm from the terminal, even though I corrected the path (it's actually ~/.wine3dmm/drive_c/Program\ Files/Microsoft\ Kids/3D\ Movie\ Maker/3dmovie.exe). the desktop shortcut works fine and I have no idea what the difference is.

11-02-2019, 08:54 AM	#21
VasaLavThree Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2019 Posts: 2	vouch for contribution
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12-18-2019, 04:06 AM	#22
Nokes Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 2,375	Hey, anyone running Catalina, can you tell me if the app still works?
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05-07-2020, 09:54 AM	#24
Teleface Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 103	MACOS install solved! (High Sierra) I downloaded the zip, moved it to the applications folder, extracted in there. Then I right-clicked the 3DMM icon and clicked 'show package contents'. Then I clicked on the winskin app and selected 'set screen options'. I think unticked all selected options in the bottom right box under 'other options'. This seemed to solve all issues and now works fine!
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