Running 3DMM in 1080p

Foone · 12-01-2016, 11:29 PM

Nice! I'd played a bit with doing this sort of thing, but never got to the point where I could fix the UI to make it usable. I'm gonna have to do this exact thing to do my render-in-higher-res trick for 3dmm.tv, though.

Compcat · 12-02-2016, 01:18 AM

Excellent!

Jayrod · 12-02-2016, 02:07 AM

I could possibly work on getting the ui elements moved. The only real thing problematic right now is that I have to go in and edit every background/z buffer manually to match the viewport size, else you'll only see a whole lot of garbage and a crash when you hit play.

Foone, do you know if it would be possible to scale the backgrounds and z buffers at runtime, with some function replacing magic of some sort?

Jayrod · 12-02-2016, 03:30 AM

Here's my first test recording of an actual movie.

Known Issues:
Font sizes aren't scaling properly in some cases.

Compcat · 12-02-2016, 11:39 AM

Wow, that looks fantastic. Does it work with v3dmm? I'd like to see something with a lot of large custom textures get this treatment.

Foone · 12-02-2016, 11:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jayrod

Foone, do you know if it would be possible to scale the backgrounds and z buffers at runtime, with some function replacing magic of some sort?

Possibly. I'm not sure where exactly you'd inject, and the way it generates new backgrounds/zbuffers at runtime (to cache unmoving objects) would definitely screw with it.

French Fry · 12-03-2016, 12:44 AM

Can you upload the binaries?

OmniromX · 12-07-2016, 12:36 AM

Awesome! Watching NUTS in 1080p takes me back!

Rabid Dinosaur · 12-12-2016, 03:36 PM

this is really cool!

Marshshell · 01-02-2017, 11:48 PM

this would be so useful

BoxFanKlik · 01-27-2017, 02:57 PM

Cool stuff, do you think you or whoever made this will release this, or post how to do it? Thanks

GraphicArmada · 02-20-2017, 10:07 PM

This'd be real nice. If we could get this to work with 3dmmFPS I'd be a real happy boy.

Dung Quach · 06-01-2017, 01:10 PM

How to use it ? Please Thanks

Foone · 06-02-2017, 11:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jayrod

Foone, do you know if it would be possible to scale the backgrounds and z buffers at runtime, with some function replacing magic of some sort?

Not easily. I did test doing that for my higher-res test, but 3dmm allocates some additional buffers at runtime as an optimization. It pre-renders all props that don't move, and just uses that as the "background" for the scene.

So scaling that was tricky, I could never figure out where it was being allocated. I'll have to dive into it at some point.

PS: Could you push a new version of the socrates library? I'd like to see the rest of the decompression implementation.

Mr Mong · 06-03-2017, 12:45 AM

Don't you guys have trouble playing around with the guts of 3dmm on newer systems? Or do you use on older rig especially for it? This stuff may as well be witchcraft to me but its still interesting to read about it.

Foone · 06-05-2017, 07:27 PM

I have multiple old XP machines for the 3dmm.tv autoconverting (which I still haven't set up at my new place, *sigh*) but most of my work happens inside an XP VM.

Tanner Goethals · 06-06-2017, 07:23 PM

Mr Mong · 06-16-2017, 07:06 PM

Could 3dmm ever run on a tablet or mobile device? Touch screen 3dmm would be fun.

If they could get powerful enough to emulate it or something

Foone · 06-20-2017, 06:59 PM

You can get a windows tablet for about 100$. They can run it. I bought one (well, two) in order to implement multi-touch into 3dmm, but I haven't made any progress on that.

Mrpingwin · 04-03-2018, 03:24 PM

yes i have question how can i change my resolution ?

Tanner Goethals · 01-26-2019, 10:09 PM

I want to use 3dmm in 1080p, please.

12-01-2016, 08:37 PM	#1
Jayrod Super Moderator Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 615	Running 3DMM in 1080p
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12-01-2016, 11:29 PM	#2
Foone Member Join Date: May 2013 Posts: 631	Nice! I'd played a bit with doing this sort of thing, but never got to the point where I could fix the UI to make it usable. I'm gonna have to do this exact thing to do my render-in-higher-res trick for 3dmm.tv, though.
Foone Member Join Date: May 2013 Posts: 631

12-02-2016, 01:18 AM	#3
Compcat Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 8,810	Excellent!
Compcat Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 8,810

12-02-2016, 02:07 AM	#4
Jayrod Super Moderator Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 615	I could possibly work on getting the ui elements moved. The only real thing problematic right now is that I have to go in and edit every background/z buffer manually to match the viewport size, else you'll only see a whole lot of garbage and a crash when you hit play. Foone, do you know if it would be possible to scale the backgrounds and z buffers at runtime, with some function replacing magic of some sort?
Jayrod Super Moderator Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 615

12-02-2016, 03:30 AM	#5
Jayrod Super Moderator Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 615	Here's my first test recording of an actual movie. Known Issues: Font sizes aren't scaling properly in some cases.
Jayrod Super Moderator Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 615

12-02-2016, 11:39 AM	#6
Compcat Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 8,810	Wow, that looks fantastic. Does it work with v3dmm? I'd like to see something with a lot of large custom textures get this treatment.
Compcat Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 8,810

12-03-2016, 12:44 AM	#8
French Fry Super Moderator Join Date: Dec 2013 Posts: 1,962	Can you upload the binaries?

12-07-2016, 12:36 AM	#9
OmniromX Member Join Date: Sep 2013 Posts: 824	Awesome! Watching NUTS in 1080p takes me back!
OmniromX Member Join Date: Sep 2013 Posts: 824

12-12-2016, 03:36 PM	#10
Rabid Dinosaur Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 14,894	this is really cool!

01-02-2017, 11:48 PM	#11
Marshshell Junior Member Join Date: May 2013 Posts: 108	this would be so useful
Marshshell Junior Member Join Date: May 2013 Posts: 108

01-27-2017, 02:57 PM	#12
BoxFanKlik Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2014 Posts: 14	Cool stuff, do you think you or whoever made this will release this, or post how to do it? Thanks
BoxFanKlik Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2014 Posts: 14

02-20-2017, 10:07 PM	#13
GraphicArmada Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 13	This'd be real nice. If we could get this to work with 3dmmFPS I'd be a real happy boy.

06-01-2017, 01:10 PM	#14
Dung Quach Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2017 Posts: 6	How to use it ? Please Thanks
Dung Quach Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2017 Posts: 6

06-03-2017, 12:45 AM	#16
Mr Mong Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 4,293	Don't you guys have trouble playing around with the guts of 3dmm on newer systems? Or do you use on older rig especially for it? This stuff may as well be witchcraft to me but its still interesting to read about it.
Mr Mong Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 4,293

06-05-2017, 07:27 PM	#17
Foone Member Join Date: May 2013 Posts: 631	I have multiple old XP machines for the 3dmm.tv autoconverting (which I still haven't set up at my new place, sigh) but most of my work happens inside an XP VM.
Foone Member Join Date: May 2013 Posts: 631

06-06-2017, 07:23 PM	#18
Tanner Goethals Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2017 Posts: 21	Cool Nice

06-16-2017, 07:06 PM	#19
Mr Mong Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 4,293	Could 3dmm ever run on a tablet or mobile device? Touch screen 3dmm would be fun. If they could get powerful enough to emulate it or something
Mr Mong Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 4,293

06-20-2017, 06:59 PM	#20
Foone Member Join Date: May 2013 Posts: 631	You can get a windows tablet for about 100$. They can run it. I bought one (well, two) in order to implement multi-touch into 3dmm, but I haven't made any progress on that.
Foone Member Join Date: May 2013 Posts: 631

04-03-2018, 03:24 PM	#21
Mrpingwin Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2018 Posts: 1	yes i have question how can i change my resolution ?
Mrpingwin Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2018 Posts: 1

01-26-2019, 10:09 PM	#22
Tanner Goethals Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2017 Posts: 21	Can I Use That? I want to use 3dmm in 1080p, please.