Bobby Jindal in 2012 Megathread

Whitey · 11-05-2008, 06:44 PM

Lowering Taxes and Castrating Child Molesters.
Jindal in 2012.

Shaun · 11-05-2008, 06:47 PM

he's got my vote

Phil Williamson · 11-06-2008, 07:07 AM

http://www.kulo.org/NewOxfordReview....dalsDemon.html

I'll pass

Aaron Haynes · 11-06-2008, 07:28 AM

Wow. Yeah, no thanks. Just being one of the few widely-respected members of the party and a good Governor doesn't qualify him for the presidency. I don't think Sarah Palin is going to be any better qualified for the office in four years either.

Your party needs to do some real soul-searching.

Bravoie · 11-06-2008, 09:46 AM

Ugh, I can't believe I read that whole thing. That crazy bitch needs a psychological evaluation, not prayer.

Whitey · 11-11-2008, 04:34 AM

Tom Brokaw: President Obama, the first question is for you. Child molestation is on the rise in this country, what would you do in your second term to alleviate this problem?

Obama: Well Tom, I'd just like to say that the failed policies of the Bush Admi...

Jindal: I'D RIP THEIR BALLS CLEAN OFF, TOM.

Breed · 11-11-2008, 04:53 AM

your satire is noted but can we both agree that Child molestation is on a rise because of the failed policies of the Bush Administration?

Andres · 11-11-2008, 05:50 PM

This is like Sarah Palin part two. Republicans think they can just run a minority and have their own Obama, except for the parts were Jindal isn't charismatic, particularly appealing to anyone, and white people (who the Republicans need for victory, unlike the Democrats) don't vote for him.

Zaquis · 11-11-2008, 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Whitey

Tom Brokaw: President Obama, the first question is for you. Child molestation is on the rise in this country, what would you do in your second term to alleviate this problem?

Obama: Well Tom, I'd just like to say that the failed policies of the Bush Admi...

Jindal: I'D RIP THEIR BALLS CLEAN OFF, TOM.

mroe like

Obama: KILL THEM KILL THEM ALL

Bobby Swisha · 11-11-2008, 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Andres

white people (who the Republicans need for victory, unlike the Democrats)

o rly

Whitey · 11-11-2008, 10:36 PM

Jindal got over 2/3 of the white vote when he ran for congress and for governor.

But yeah, white Democrats don't like him.

Random Pants · 11-11-2008, 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Phil Williamson

http://www.kulo.org/NewOxfordReview....dalsDemon.html

I'll pass

the way that guy describes regular human interaction in that article is terrifying. he intellectualises something as commonplace as touching someone. i couldn't bring myself to read the last 2/3 because his style of writing is so ponderous. it seems like he has to remind himself when he should be feeling emotion.

Zaquis · 11-12-2008, 12:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Whitey

Jindal got over 2/3 of the white vote when he ran for congress and for governor.

But yeah, white Democrats don't like him.

white PEOPLE. a lot of white PEOPLE don't like him, and so do a lot of non-white people (and it has nothing to do with his race)

Andres · 11-12-2008, 12:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Whitey

Jindal got over 2/3 of the white vote when he ran for congress and for governor.

But yeah, white Democrats don't like him.

As far as I know, Jindal got some numbers in heavily Republican white counties that he really had no business getting such numbers in. I might be mistaken though. Besides that, considering the state of Louisiana politics at the time, a Democrat wasn't going to win.

Whitey · 11-12-2008, 12:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Zaquis

white PEOPLE. a lot of white PEOPLE don't like him, and so do a lot of non-white people (and it has nothing to do with his race)

You're talking about a guy who has had an approval rating of 70% or more throughout this year, including an approval rating as high as 90% from those lousy racist white Republicans.

Do you even know what state he's from, Zach? Without using google? I'm serious.

Andres · 11-12-2008, 12:48 AM

You are severely underestimating the role of party politics in America. You can actually probably look at Barack for a similiar situation.

Whitey · 11-12-2008, 12:56 AM

I'm not sure what you're trying to say...I'm just pointing out that there really is no basis to make the claim that white people in general wouldn't get behind a guy like Jindal, or any other appealing non-white candidate. Louisiana is living proof that it's happened.

Aaron Haynes · 11-12-2008, 12:58 AM

How does that translate into national appeal once they put him on the presidential stage for 20 months? Sarah Palin had the highest approval rating for a US governor before she was added to the McCain ticket.

I don't think people who literally believe in demons are qualified to lead a world superpower, personally.

Whitey · 11-12-2008, 01:00 AM

Sarah Palin was a dolt. And completely unprepared...that was her big problem. She wasn't ready to be in that spotlight, and I doubt she'll ever be ready.

No one knows what Jindal's national appeal would be. I guess we'll find out in a few years...but no one knew for sure how the nation would react to Barack either when people started hyping him in 2004. Hell...even in January of this year it looked like Hillary would probably beat him. But a lot of Republicans do like Jindal, from what I hear on radio and tv as well as just in my everyday life when I talk to conservative people. I don't see evidence to believe otherwise.

Newt Gingrich is due for a comeback too. He'll be there.

Andres · 11-12-2008, 01:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Whitey

I'm not sure what you're trying to say...I'm just pointing out that there really is no basis to make the claim that white people in general wouldn't get behind a guy like Jindal, or any other appealing non-white candidate. Louisiana is living proof that it's happened.

It can happen, but it is very complicated. Barack Obama had problems getting white Democrats to vote for him in a lot of regions in the country. He only won the nomination because he had a better strategy than Hillary Clinton, and the Democrats he had issues with only backed him because he was the candidate for the party. That's what I meant by party politics. That, and the fact that George W. was hated by almost everyone so people didn't trust Republicans.

Similarly, Bobby Jindal won in an open race after a terrible Democratic administration, with the Democrats' party name wholly tainted, in a race with not one but many Democratic candidates against him. Of course a lot of people backed him, he was the Republican after a shit Democratic governor. And of course Republicans are going to back their Republican governor, especially if he isn't catastrophically bad.

But that's a wholly different scenario than running in the primaries against a bunch of Republican white guys. Especially if Barack's administration is actually a good one.

Aaron Haynes · 11-12-2008, 01:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Whitey

No one knows what Jindal's national appeal would be. I guess we'll find out in a few years...but no one knew for sure how the nation would react to Barack either when people started hyping him in 2004.

That's true, but I don't think the Republican party is in a state where they can afford to assume one candidate is going to swing things back their way on a long-term scale. There are deep divisions in the party that one presidential election cycle is not going to easily fix. You can't just take your pick between Palin, Jindal, or Gingrich and assume that's going to make everyone happy again. Or at least, I don't see how.

Andres · 11-12-2008, 01:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Whitey

Newt Gingrich is due for a comeback too. He'll be there.

I have heard this around Republican circles, but do you think this will be successful? Just wondering.

I ask because the resounding message from this election is "not more of the same". John McCain was the apex of that, a candidate that was a 2000 leftover. Running a guy known from his political life in the mid 90s would just be a terrible idea.

I know I'm terribly biased, but honestly I don't think your candidate is going to be any of these people. Especially not in 2012. If Jindal actually turns out to be a serious contender, they'll wait until Barack is out of office. Unless Barack's presidency is fucking terrible, that is.

Andres · 11-12-2008, 01:21 AM

Besides that, how can you run Bobby Jindal against Barack Obama in 2012, specifically?

Jindal and Obama are similar, at least superficially. Jindal will remind people of Obama. This is a certainty.

Obama's presidency can range from being very good, to being very bad. If Jindal is going to remind people of Obama, then he wouldn't have much of a strong point, would he?

If Obama's presidency is good, then why would people be compelled to vote for a Bobby Jindal? If we are doing fine with a young, ethnic, post-partisan candidate, why replace him with a young, ethnic, post-partisan candidate from the other party? There would be nothing compelling there. Besides that, it would be too hard, and it would be better for the guy to wait until Obama is stepping down.

If Obama's presidency is not good, how are you going to convince people that Jindal will be different? If the young, ethnic candidate of the Democrats was a failure, how are you going to convince the country in general to vote for the young, ethnic candidate of the other party?

I would say that it's extremely complicated to gain a meaningful portion of the electorate when you are going to remind people of your opponent.

Aaron Haynes · 11-12-2008, 01:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Whitey

Newt Gingrich is due for a comeback too. He'll be there.

Mr. "I'm shutting down the government because Clinton made me sit in the back of the plane"? Mr. "Let's waste two years impeaching Clinton for a blowjob and feign outrage at the loss of family values while I'm secretly having an affair the same time"?

Mr. "I was nearly forced out of my position as House Speaker during a coup orchestrated by my own party and refused to take my seat after the 1998 election because they would've tried again and probably succeded"?

Seriously?

Also, like Andres said, Gingrich was an answer to Clinton. He was the instigator of the last cycle of power, which has ultimately led to the Republican Party as a frankensteinian monster of evangelism, neoconservatism, and extremely partisan politics. With the moderates finally starting to realize that fiscal conservatism and small government principles aren't being represented. Alienate them much more in favor of lunatics like Palin, dinosaurs like Gingrich, or bland androids (blandroids?) like Romney, and they're going to leave the party in droves.

Zaquis · 11-12-2008, 01:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Whitey

You're talking about a guy who has had an approval rating of 70% or more throughout this year, including an approval rating as high as 90% from those lousy racist white Republicans.

Do you even know what state he's from, Zach? Without using google? I'm serious.

i've followed jindal since the primaries and if he gets republican nomination i will take a photo of myself kissing a man and if he actually wins presidency i will post a photo of my penis on this board

11-05-2008, 06:44 PM	#1
Whitey Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 6,536	Bobby Jindal in 2012 Megathread Lowering Taxes and Castrating Child Molesters. Jindal in 2012.
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Shaun Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 17,881	he's got my vote
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Bravoie Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 4,713	Ugh, I can't believe I read that whole thing. That crazy bitch needs a psychological evaluation, not prayer.
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11-11-2008, 04:34 AM	#6
Whitey Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 6,536	Tom Brokaw: President Obama, the first question is for you. Child molestation is on the rise in this country, what would you do in your second term to alleviate this problem? Obama: Well Tom, I'd just like to say that the failed policies of the Bush Admi... Jindal: I'D RIP THEIR BALLS CLEAN OFF, TOM.
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11-11-2008, 04:53 AM	#7
Breed Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 7,768	your satire is noted but can we both agree that Child molestation is on a rise because of the failed policies of the Bush Administration?
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11-06-2008, 07:07 AM	#3
Phil Williamson Super Moderator Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 16,900	http://www.kulo.org/NewOxfordReview....dalsDemon.html I'll pass

11-06-2008, 07:28 AM	#4
Aaron Haynes Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 15,125	Wow. Yeah, no thanks. Just being one of the few widely-respected members of the party and a good Governor doesn't qualify him for the presidency. I don't think Sarah Palin is going to be any better qualified for the office in four years either. Your party needs to do some real soul-searching.

11-11-2008, 05:50 PM	#8
Andres Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 17,797	This is like Sarah Palin part two. Republicans think they can just run a minority and have their own Obama, except for the parts were Jindal isn't charismatic, particularly appealing to anyone, and white people (who the Republicans need for victory, unlike the Democrats) don't vote for him.
Andres Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 17,797

11-11-2008, 10:36 PM	#11
Whitey Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 6,536	Jindal got over 2/3 of the white vote when he ran for congress and for governor. But yeah, white Democrats don't like him.
Whitey Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 6,536

11-12-2008, 12:48 AM	#16
Andres Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 17,797	You are severely underestimating the role of party politics in America. You can actually probably look at Barack for a similiar situation.
Andres Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 17,797

11-12-2008, 12:56 AM	#17
Whitey Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 6,536	I'm not sure what you're trying to say...I'm just pointing out that there really is no basis to make the claim that white people in general wouldn't get behind a guy like Jindal, or any other appealing non-white candidate. Louisiana is living proof that it's happened.
Whitey Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 6,536

11-12-2008, 12:58 AM	#18
Aaron Haynes Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 15,125	How does that translate into national appeal once they put him on the presidential stage for 20 months? Sarah Palin had the highest approval rating for a US governor before she was added to the McCain ticket. I don't think people who literally believe in demons are qualified to lead a world superpower, personally.

11-12-2008, 01:00 AM	#19
Whitey Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 6,536	Sarah Palin was a dolt. And completely unprepared...that was her big problem. She wasn't ready to be in that spotlight, and I doubt she'll ever be ready. No one knows what Jindal's national appeal would be. I guess we'll find out in a few years...but no one knew for sure how the nation would react to Barack either when people started hyping him in 2004. Hell...even in January of this year it looked like Hillary would probably beat him. But a lot of Republicans do like Jindal, from what I hear on radio and tv as well as just in my everyday life when I talk to conservative people. I don't see evidence to believe otherwise. Newt Gingrich is due for a comeback too. He'll be there.
Whitey Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 6,536

11-12-2008, 01:21 AM	#23
Andres Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 17,797	Besides that, how can you run Bobby Jindal against Barack Obama in 2012, specifically? Jindal and Obama are similar, at least superficially. Jindal will remind people of Obama. This is a certainty. Obama's presidency can range from being very good, to being very bad. If Jindal is going to remind people of Obama, then he wouldn't have much of a strong point, would he? If Obama's presidency is good, then why would people be compelled to vote for a Bobby Jindal? If we are doing fine with a young, ethnic, post-partisan candidate, why replace him with a young, ethnic, post-partisan candidate from the other party? There would be nothing compelling there. Besides that, it would be too hard, and it would be better for the guy to wait until Obama is stepping down. If Obama's presidency is not good, how are you going to convince people that Jindal will be different? If the young, ethnic candidate of the Democrats was a failure, how are you going to convince the country in general to vote for the young, ethnic candidate of the other party? I would say that it's extremely complicated to gain a meaningful portion of the electorate when you are going to remind people of your opponent.
Andres Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 17,797