Who else is looking forward to tonight's debate?

NearHi · 10-03-2008, 01:00 AM

I need to buy some popcorn and a sodeepop!

Notch Johnson · 10-03-2008, 01:03 AM

i'm looking forward to reading what 3dmm.com has to say about it!

Aaron Haynes · 10-03-2008, 01:07 AM

I'm excited and horrified.

McJuicy · 10-03-2008, 01:14 AM

I wish she would stop looking into the camera
its creeping me out

Orcus · 10-03-2008, 01:15 AM

Maverick count: 2

Lord Blazer · 10-03-2008, 01:54 AM

Hockey Mom Count: 3

Slime · 10-03-2008, 01:56 AM

hahahah please keep those counts updated

Aaron Haynes · 10-03-2008, 02:10 AM

Nucular count: At least 7.

Aaron Haynes · 10-03-2008, 02:14 AM

Hahahahaha, smart idea for Biden to bring up the Bush Doctrine.

Aaron Haynes · 10-03-2008, 02:25 AM

She took a question about potential weaknesses and explained what her supposed strengths were. Let's see if Ifill or Biden follows up on that.

Edit: Nope. Biden at least acknowledged what the question was about before launching into a description of his own strengths.

Lord Blazer · 10-03-2008, 02:27 AM

Maverick Count: 5

e: I wish I kept a count on "partisanship." It's up to at least 10.

e2: Biden on the attack about "maverick"

Crazy Ivan · 10-03-2008, 02:48 AM

i made this

Jesterfoot · 10-03-2008, 02:54 AM

She was too vague about everything to fall on her face like I was expecting, but Biden did GREAT. I loved that speech about how Mccain was "not" a maverick on any issue.

Breed · 10-03-2008, 02:57 AM

agreed, Palin didn't do great, but she didn't fucking fail hard, which is what I expected. She really held her own, and she's going to win over idiot undecideds

Biden on the other hand, I love him even more now, he's just great

Shaun · 10-03-2008, 03:06 AM

Everything she said sounded like it was recited from memory. Very vague. I don't know how anyone (die hard republicans) can say she won that debate. But Biden wiped the floor with her in response to the whole maverick thing.

Aaron Haynes · 10-03-2008, 03:17 AM

I got the impression that she came in as Sarah Palin playing "Sarah Palin, folksy hockey mom".

She was rehearsed, calculated, and gimmicky. She was sure to insert these "adorable" gosh-darns and betchas and I know I'm an outsiders at the right moments. And at least one moment it came off as a downright fucked-up reference to Biden's dead wife. It was "cute" moments, buzzwords and phrases, and already-refuted arguments. It was a performance, often unrelated to the actual questions, and not substantive or subject to scrutiny. She got the words right, but not the music.

Biden started out a little weak, but was compelling as the debate went on. He held back a lot, probably a smart idea, but got the appropriate hits in.

She didn't collapse under her own ignorance and the debate-floor lights, she spoke in mostly complete sentences, and even managed to make a few cogent arguments, so Republicans will call this a stunning victory. But something about it was off, even kind of creepy, like a Stepford candidate. If you go through her answers, you can see where talking points and buzzwords fill in the gaps. Less obvious than in the incoherent responses to her interviews, but still there if you look.

She is not ready for this job.

Breed · 10-03-2008, 03:22 AM

51 % biden, 36% palin according to cnn poll

Air Rick · 10-03-2008, 03:24 AM

she didn't falter, which I found surprising...

...and disappointing...i was hoping there would be something to laugh about...

Breed · 10-03-2008, 03:26 AM

I didn't like Biden's gay marriage answer, by the way

Phil Williamson · 10-03-2008, 03:40 AM

yeah agreed, but otherwise I think he was excellent. Palin was certainly not bad, and way overperformed relative to my expectations.

Lord Blazer · 10-03-2008, 03:47 AM

That thing Biden said about filling up a tank of gas I liked.

Quote:

Originally Posted by biden

And guess what? Those people who say don't go into debt, they can barely pay to fill up their gas tank. I was recently at my local gas station and asked a guy named Joey Danco (ph). I said Joey, how much did it cost to fill your tank? You know what his answer was? He said I don't know, Joe. I never have enough money to do it. The middle class needs relief, tax relief. They need it now. They need help now.

Air Rick · 10-03-2008, 03:54 AM

hahah "originally posted by biden"

pretty awesome quote, though.

Slime · 10-03-2008, 06:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aaron Haynes

I got the impression that she came in as Sarah Palin playing "Sarah Palin, folksy hockey mom".

She was rehearsed, calculated, and gimmicky. She was sure to insert these "adorable" gosh-darns and betchas and I know I'm an outsiders at the right moments. And at least one moment it came off as a downright fucked-up reference to Biden's dead wife. It was "cute" moments, buzzwords and phrases, and already-refuted arguments. It was a performance, often unrelated to the actual questions, and not substantive or subject to scrutiny.

Yeah. I have to say, as the debates go on, I end up barely listening to what they are actually talking about, and instead focus on their mannerisms etc, but GEEZ. Palin was CONSTANTLY doing that cute thing! And I bet there are so many people that like her just cause of her cuteness. It pissed me off so much watching it. That one question where she just went all-out on the cuteness, "Oh gosh darnit Joe, say it ain't so Joe" etc, WTF.

And it sucks cause Biden HAS to smile in response to her cuteness, or he appears mean. I kinda hate the debates and how based on appearance they are.

Orcus · 10-03-2008, 06:07 PM

I can't believe we have someone that's like that running for vice president. It's like I'm watching a bad movie.

NearHi · 10-03-2008, 07:10 PM

I was so pumped to see this but then I had to say late at work and missed it.... I'm really sad I missed it.

10-03-2008, 01:00 AM	#1
NearHi Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 6,483	Who else is looking forward to tonight's debate? I need to buy some popcorn and a sodeepop!
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10-03-2008, 01:14 AM	#4
McJuicy Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 8,786	I wish she would stop looking into the camera its creeping me out
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10-03-2008, 01:15 AM	#5
Orcus Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 8,146	Maverick count: 2
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10-03-2008, 01:56 AM	#7
Slime Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 24,891	hahahah please keep those counts updated
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10-03-2008, 02:57 AM	#14
Breed Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 7,768	agreed, Palin didn't do great, but she didn't fucking fail hard, which is what I expected. She really held her own, and she's going to win over idiot undecideds Biden on the other hand, I love him even more now, he's just great
Breed Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 7,768

10-03-2008, 01:03 AM	#2
Notch Johnson Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 4,503	i'm looking forward to reading what 3dmm.com has to say about it!

10-03-2008, 01:07 AM	#3
Aaron Haynes Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 15,125	I'm excited and horrified.

10-03-2008, 01:54 AM	#6
Lord Blazer Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 16,879	Hockey Mom Count: 3

10-03-2008, 02:10 AM	#8
Aaron Haynes Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 15,125	Nucular count: At least 7.

10-03-2008, 02:14 AM	#9
Aaron Haynes Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 15,125	Hahahahaha, smart idea for Biden to bring up the Bush Doctrine.

10-03-2008, 02:25 AM	#10
Aaron Haynes Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 15,125	She took a question about potential weaknesses and explained what her supposed strengths were. Let's see if Ifill or Biden follows up on that. Edit: Nope. Biden at least acknowledged what the question was about before launching into a description of his own strengths.

10-03-2008, 02:27 AM	#11
Lord Blazer Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 16,879	Maverick Count: 5 e: I wish I kept a count on "partisanship." It's up to at least 10. e2: Biden on the attack about "maverick"

10-03-2008, 02:48 AM	#12
Crazy Ivan Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 9,462	i made this

10-03-2008, 02:54 AM	#13
Jesterfoot Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 7,470	She was too vague about everything to fall on her face like I was expecting, but Biden did GREAT. I loved that speech about how Mccain was "not" a maverick on any issue.

10-03-2008, 03:06 AM	#15
Shaun Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 17,881	Everything she said sounded like it was recited from memory. Very vague. I don't know how anyone (die hard republicans) can say she won that debate. But Biden wiped the floor with her in response to the whole maverick thing.
Shaun Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 17,881

10-03-2008, 03:17 AM	#16
Aaron Haynes Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 15,125	I got the impression that she came in as Sarah Palin playing "Sarah Palin, folksy hockey mom". She was rehearsed, calculated, and gimmicky. She was sure to insert these "adorable" gosh-darns and betchas and I know I'm an outsiders at the right moments. And at least one moment it came off as a downright fucked-up reference to Biden's dead wife. It was "cute" moments, buzzwords and phrases, and already-refuted arguments. It was a performance, often unrelated to the actual questions, and not substantive or subject to scrutiny. She got the words right, but not the music. Biden started out a little weak, but was compelling as the debate went on. He held back a lot, probably a smart idea, but got the appropriate hits in. She didn't collapse under her own ignorance and the debate-floor lights, she spoke in mostly complete sentences, and even managed to make a few cogent arguments, so Republicans will call this a stunning victory. But something about it was off, even kind of creepy, like a Stepford candidate. If you go through her answers, you can see where talking points and buzzwords fill in the gaps. Less obvious than in the incoherent responses to her interviews, but still there if you look. She is not ready for this job.

10-03-2008, 03:22 AM	#17
Breed Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 7,768	51 % biden, 36% palin according to cnn poll
Breed Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 7,768

10-03-2008, 03:24 AM	#18
Air Rick Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 6,733	she didn't falter, which I found surprising... ...and disappointing...i was hoping there would be something to laugh about...
Air Rick Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 6,733

10-03-2008, 03:26 AM	#19
Breed Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 7,768	I didn't like Biden's gay marriage answer, by the way
Breed Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 7,768

10-03-2008, 03:40 AM	#20
Phil Williamson Super Moderator Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 16,900	yeah agreed, but otherwise I think he was excellent. Palin was certainly not bad, and way overperformed relative to my expectations.

10-03-2008, 03:54 AM	#22
Air Rick Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 6,733	hahah "originally posted by biden" pretty awesome quote, though.
Air Rick Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 6,733

10-03-2008, 06:07 PM	#24
Orcus Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 8,146	I can't believe we have someone that's like that running for vice president. It's like I'm watching a bad movie.
Orcus Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 8,146

10-03-2008, 07:10 PM	#25
NearHi Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 6,483	I was so pumped to see this but then I had to say late at work and missed it.... I'm really sad I missed it.
NearHi Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 6,483