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Old 09-05-2008, 08:36 PM   #1
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bill o'reilly approves of obama

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Chatting with Obama
By Bill O'Reilly for BillOReilly.com
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Like him or not, you have to give Barack Obama credit for waging a smart, focused campaign. Destroying the Clinton machine was a major achievement and so was putting together a successful convention in Denver. Obama is now firmly a part of U.S. history, no matter what happens in the presidential election.

The problem some Americans continue to have with the Senator is that he is long on charisma but short on detail. This frightens some voters. Who the heck is this guy, anyway? So when Obama finally agreed to speak to me this week, specifics were on my mind.

First, the man. The Barack Obama I witnessed is self-confident, determined and driven. He was acutely aware of his surroundings from the moment he entered the room. He looks you in the eye and touches your shoulder. He understands how to connect one-on-one.

As far as philosophy goes, Senator Obama is convinced that the federal government should be in control of income distribution and, to some extent, should regulate the free marketplace. That is a classic liberal position, and Obama promotes it well.

The Senator also believes that poor Americans have a basic right to free health care and monetary supplements from the government with no strings attached. The American substance abuser, for example, would derive the same benefit as a hard working, laid off worker would. Again, classic liberalism. No judgments made regarding entitlements.

So, if Barack Obama does become president, there will definitely be change. His left-wing base will demand it, and he will come through. You can decide if that's change we should believe in, but keep in mind that the unintended consequences of government interference in the marketplace are impossible to predict. Free markets have a way of chafing under government imposition.

On the foreign policy front, Obama has convinced me that he is tough but cautious. He rose up quickly because he vehemently opposed the Iraq war. But now I see a man who understands the victory that has taken place in Iraq. I don't believe he wants to screw that up. I could be wrong.

After going mano-a-mano with Obama on television, I am also persuaded that he is a sincere guy—that he wants the best for all Americans. He's an ideologue, but not a blind one. He understands that his story is incredible, and, I have come to believe, he is grateful to the American system for allowing it happen.

It is true that we don't know whether Senator Obama has the ability to solve complex problems, but you can say that about all presidential contenders.

Like most politicians, Obama has used guile and good luck to accumulate his power. He can be ruthless, kind, unfair, and generous. In short, he's a real person trying to achieve an unreal position—that of the most powerful person in the world.

God help him.







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Old 09-05-2008, 08:39 PM   #2
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I have no idea what to think of this

Maybe this'll give republicans something to think about

but also it might just be a ploy to get hardcore dems to say "BILL APPROVES? I DONT"

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Old 09-05-2008, 08:40 PM   #3
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Old 09-05-2008, 09:21 PM   #4
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Old 09-06-2008, 12:05 AM   #5
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Sorry, what, your head exploded because in one video before the surge he didn't think it would succeed, and later, he says that it did succeed? What's the big deal? That's not flip-flopping or anything, nor is it something he could predict.

Shouldn't you be a bit respectful of the fact that he seems genuinely non-partisan about the issue?
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Old 09-06-2008, 12:36 AM   #6
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Eloquence...non-partisanship...leadership.
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Old 09-06-2008, 12:59 AM   #7
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the surge didn't work.
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Old 09-06-2008, 01:01 AM   #8
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who gives a shit, anyway? what kind of idiotic dick-waving contest is this to you, that "the surge" is some important part of? the war on iraq was a dumb,dumb thing that never should have happened, and it's been five fucking years, and you disgusting people are still going on and on about "winning". what the fuck is the matter with you people? is everything some fucking game that has to be won? you make me sick.
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Old 09-06-2008, 01:04 AM   #9
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are you the type of cretin who thinks america should have "won" vietnam? answer me please.
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Old 09-06-2008, 01:05 AM   #10
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seriously man can't you even, for once, have a goddamn opinion on your own? can't you, for the love of god, just admit how shitty this [argument] is instead of scouring through whatever it is you read and seeing what the consensus/party line is today?

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do you ever get tired of repeating the standard [left]-wing rag nonsense? this is what every two-bit moron has been forced to parade around in news and interviews, and it certainly didn't get better as an argument today.
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Old 09-06-2008, 01:08 AM   #11
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are you the type of cretin who thinks america should have "won" vietnam? answer me please.

are you the type of cretin who doesn't see that McCain had better judgment of how to repair the situation in Iraq than Obama? answer me please.
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Old 09-06-2008, 02:13 AM   #12
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WHO FUCKING CARES - LETS TALK ABOUT DRUGS
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Old 09-06-2008, 02:19 AM   #13
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Old 09-06-2008, 02:24 AM   #14
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Old 09-06-2008, 03:11 AM   #15
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It is true that we don't know whether Senator Obama has the ability to solve complex problems,

i imagined obama sitting at a desk with a long division problem, trying desperately to solve it, then sitting back, pushing the paper away, sighing in frustration, then looking off to the distance in resignation
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Old 09-06-2008, 03:56 AM   #16
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are you the type of cretin who doesn't see that McCain had better judgment of how to repair the situation in Iraq than Obama? answer me please.


the better judgment to repair what situation? the situation he VOTED TO CREATE? the situation he has been a cheerleader for for FIVE YEARS? the situation YOU wanted? what's mccain's better judgment? the judgment to vote for the war? the judgment to pretend the surge is some huge success (it isn't)? the judgment to pretend that americans would be welcomed and treated as heroes? the judgment to not know who the sunnis and the shiites are? the guy that got us into the problem, doesn't know diddly squat about anything regarding it, and now clings obsessively to some idiotic surge as if that's been the panacea of military solutions. that's your idea of a man with good judgment.

mccain had the "good judgment" to vote for a war everyone outside of america knew was completely retarded. a war with blatantly false information that was known to be blatantly false before the war. that's your idea of good judgment: being deceived like a complete fucking idiot. he's had the good judgment to parade his disgusting, pathetic face all around news channels for the past half a decade talking incessantly about how things are finally shaping up, nevermind the fact that things should have never been shaping up in the first place because they should have never been down. this is your idea of a man with good judgment.

who exactly do you think you are to be making posts about good judgment? you supported and still support the war in iraq. every few months for the past five years you've used whatever pathetic excuse for the war is currently en vogue, whether it is wmds, saddam being evil, the joys of democracy, etc. in what fantasy world do you live in where you think your grotesque opinions about anything hold any weight? what makes you think you can even understand the concept of good judgment? your judgment of the political atmosphere in america is that "bush doesn't get enough credit". your judgment of the thousands of dead lives of iraqis is that they were a bunch of terrorist insurgents anyway. your judgment of the destruction of the country and the shitty lives of its citizens is that "at least we got saddam's kids". who the fuck cares what you think.

i don't "see" that mccain has better judgment to solve this problem because he very obviously doesn't. he's an idiot concerned about "winning" rather than anything that actually has to do with real sovereignity for the iraqi nation. he's a goddamn loser that parades anything the bush administration tells him in news and makes a fool out of himself. he's one of the pieces of shit that voted for the war in the first place. i can't "see" that mccain has better judgment because he only has better judgment in the fictitious reality you live in where going to iraq in the first place was good judgment and all the conflict is the fault of the iraqis and not the american military.


and i don't even know what the fuck to say about that other horrendous post you made. was that supposed to be a burn or something, or did you just accidentally quote me twice? replacing "right" with "left" doesn't suddenly mean that every criticism I make of you actually applies to me.

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Old 09-06-2008, 04:52 AM   #17
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are you the type of cretin who doesn't see that McCain had better judgment of how to repair the situation in Iraq than Obama? answer me please.
Of course the surge reduced the levels of violence in more populated areas. That's what happens when you increase the number of soldiers. But the ultimate goal, as stated by everyone who supported it, was for the Iraqis to use our increased presence to achieve a number of political benchmarks. The surge was not a long-term political solution. It was a short-term military solution. The surge "worked" in the sense that we reduced violence in a limited capacity and bought Iraq time for major political reforms that it didn't use.

How has the surge gotten Iraq significantly closer to political stabilization? How has it made it possible for us to reduce our presence to the skeleton force McCain has promised will populate the country in his rosy "make it a hundred [years]" scenario? How does one plan's limited military success translate to McCain having "better judgment" than Obama on repairing Iraq as a whole? What the fuck is he going to do now? How long do you think we can sustain 155,000 troops waiting for the Iraqi government to become politically stable? How can you possibly think that "the surge worked" is something more than a platitude, and not an answer?

How is "I was right about the surge" a policy?


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Old 09-06-2008, 07:21 AM   #18
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Whitey, you're sorta grasping at straws now, kiddo.
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Old 09-06-2008, 08:41 AM   #19
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Old 09-06-2008, 11:26 AM   #20
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we have effectively killed 1 in every 10 iraqis.

the surge is working!!!
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Old 09-06-2008, 01:50 PM   #21
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Whitey, this is getting sad.
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Old 09-06-2008, 06:50 PM   #22
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I agree ^^
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